Who believes in ghosts?

[Mick]

Does anyone believe in ghosts or paranormal activity? I'm wondering who believes in ghosts and if so, why do you believe? I'd also like to hear if you don't believe, why you think that.

I do believe there is something around, not quite sure what, but I think it may be peoples spirits who do not leave. I have had many experiences which would easily fill a few pages but I guess the most credible one was at a friends house.

I was visiting a friend who lived in a single story house which was raised off the ground. The house was at least 50 years old so it had some history behind it. My friends parents were warned by neighbours just after they moved in that the house was haunted but they took no notice as they were both non-believers. I say WERE because they believe after living there.

There was 6 of us there and we went under the house to have a smoke as naughty little boys do sometimes:D(I was 17 at the time). We heard footsteps in the house walking from the lounge into the kitchen, the tap turned on for a few seconds then turned off. The footsteps then went out of the kitchen.

We all thought someone had broken into the house while we were underneath so 2 of us went round to the front door and 2 at the back. We all went inside and searched the house to find no one. There was only 2 doors and all the windows had flyscreens on them so no one could have jumped out.

I am thankful there were other witnesses because all my other experiences I have been alone

Getting scared yet??:D

[Arkacia]

I'm a non-believer, and think these things have logical explainations, but I did have a couple of experiences in a house I was working as a nanny in about 20 years ago, that I just have'nt been able to find one of those logical explainations for yet. This house was an old one, and was supposed to be haunted by the spirit of an old lady, who died in it years before, according to the story told to me by the current owner.

The first "happening" was in the lounge room. The owners mother had given him some tiny ceramic animals which I had decided to use to decorate the mantlepiece. One of them was a tiny seal. One day I went into the lounge to clean it, and found the seal on the floor. I picked it up and put it back on the mantle, went out of the room for a few mins, then came back, and it was again on the same spot on the floor. This happened twice more that day, untill I spoke out loud (feeling like an idiot), and asked the room at large, nicely, to please leave it alone. It never moved again. There was no-one else in the house at the time, as the boys were at school, and the owner at work.

The other incident happened in my bedroom. I had a collection of my own ceramic animals and one plastic rat (which I won at the local show, and was pretty proud of) on the mantle in there. One day, the owner, his parents, the boys and I went out for the day. When we returned home, I went into my room, and found all the more "ugly" ceramics turned towards the wall, and the plastic rat turned around, and pushed down onto his nose. Again (remembering what happened with the seal), I asked the room at large to please stop, as that scared the heck out of me (as you can imagine), and it never happened again, though I did put the rat away so as not to tempt fate :D.

[Shaunography]

I believe that if someone is killed unnaturally, like being murdered, their soul with stay on this Earth.

I've experienced loads of things in my house. TV being turned on by itself...CDs falling off their rack...loads of weird noises etc. But I'm not scared by it because it can't hurt me.

[Mick]

Actually I forgot to mention in my first post that when I was about 10, I saw a lightning ball in the house which I thought was a ghost at the time. I found out what it was when I was 16 but I had other experiences before I was 16, so they reinforced my belief in ghosts.

What's a lightning ball I hear you ask?.... It is a very rare thing which is not well known, basically an electrical charge which floats around and glows and can be almost any size(as big as a bus apparently). The one I saw was about the size of a basketball and glowed a blue/white colour. It was late at night and thankfully I had just been to the toilet so there were no accidents because it was very scary for a 10 year old alone in the dark:D In fact it scared me so much I still have a perfect picture in my mind, every detail is still crystal clear 20 years after it happened:)

I included a pic(a simulation, not real)...not very good but I found it hard to get one that looked like mine. Also mine was blue/white and inside the house, but you get the idea:)

[Shaunography]

Woah. How do those things form?

[Mick]

Woah. How do those things form?

That's a hard question to answer Shaunography:)
The truth is no one knows exactly what they are but the best theory is a charged ball of electricity. Some scientists have created similar results in experiments but it doesn't explain all of the sightings because they are so many cases that are very different.
There are theories that they are created by storms.. who knows?

You can do a google search and come up with plenty of sites with info on them.
Here is one that looks OK, Lightning Balls (http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020209/bob8.asp) ,not 100% accurate but it gives you an idea.

Here's a pic that looks a bit like the one I saw

[pollovivo]

Wow that's incredible :D ! I want to see on now just for the experience :D :D

[Mick]

They are so rare you would have more chance winning Lotto:D, it doesn't hurt to keep your eyes open though. It certainly was an experience... a scary one because I was only 10yo and it was coming straight at me

I ran when I saw it, thinking it was a ghost so I don't know what happened but I will never forget it:)

[the_dude3]

Ok I have the solution to your ghost thingy. I too believe in ghosts, but the thing is, they aren't ghosts. They are demons. That's right I said it demons, the biblical beings known to stir up all kinds of crazy trouble. They will do anything to make you fear them, because they know that we have power over them. They can also take human form and make you think that they are actually people. The reason they might do that is because they had some sort of attachment to the person living there, like possessing them, or they just don't want you to know what they really are. Another reason why demons might linger around or "haunt" a particular place would be because they used to or they do gather at that spot for satanic rituals. Either that or they were assigned there by satan for some odd reason and they have to stay there.

I know you probably think that I am crazy or something but I didn't really believe it at first until I really looked into the subject. Then all the sudden it came to me and I was just like whoa what's going on, no way this can't be real...it is though which is scary sort of at first but then you come to realize that it isn't so bad once you see that there is more to life than just living.

[Arkacia]

If what I encountered in my post above was'nt a ghost (and I'm not convinced it was), it certainly was'nt a demon :D.

As I said in one of my other posts in here I'm an atheist, so don't believe demons exist. If it was a ghost, it was just a benign old lady, still pottering around her old house, and playing the odd trick or two. There was never anything sinister, or evil going on.

[the_dude3]

Demons don't have to be sinister or evil just so you know arkacia. They like to be sneaky and lead you off in anyway possible. What you are saying is exactly what they want you to think, it was nothing and if it was then it was just some person...WRONGO!! If anything they are giving you a big slap in the face and saying, "HERE I AM OVER HERE LOOK AT ME!!!" This is more proof than you should ever need to have to know that there is something out there rather than we just die and that's it, or there's no more to life than just living. It's much deeper than that. What I don't really understand is how people can be satiafied with thinking that there is nothing out there. I don't want to offend you in any way at all, but I think that's sheer ignorance. You have to do some research or something. Just take some time and study these things, ask people, just don't sit there and think that (not saying you think this) well since scientists or magazines say it, it must be true. Here I have a website for you. Go to www.creationevidence.org and take some time to look at a few things there. It will all start to come together. Trust me, EVERTHING starts to make sense.

[Arkacia]

I have read the bible, several time, and the Koran, and studied several other major world religions. I also have a strong interest in world mythology, so have studied the "old" gods and goddesses as well. So I don't think I think this way out of ignorance, quite the opposite in fact.

I've also visited that site before, and I'm afraid nothing I read and saw there convinced me that evolution is definetly wrong and creation definetly right. I'm afraid I just don't believe in the creation story at all. The evolution theory may have holes, and probably always will, but it makes a lot more sense to me than creation.

Now to get back on topic, before the other Mod has my guts for garters :D.
I don't believe in ghosts, let alone demons, and my story probably had a perfectly resonable explaination, minor earth tremors etc. I just don't know what it was, and it was probably just my mind that made me think it was a ghost.

[pollovivo]

1. I'm impressed at the fact that you seem very well read and have a good sense of logic over illusions.

2. I, actually believe that spiritual beings may very well exist if they died without finishing what they set out to accomplish... :) perhaps I'm right, perhaps I'm wrong... I suppose it really could all just be an illusion... ooh... :D

[the_dude3]

Why in the world would spirits stay here if they go on to heaven or wherever? But then again if there are spirits, doesn't that prove that there is in fact a God? And no where have I seen that the spirit has control of where it goes anyway, they go someplace until they are judged.

Arkacia if there were minor earth tremors, you think you would have either felt it or somebody else would have and told you about it. Also, why do you think the "room" stop after you told it to? I'm sure if it were earth tremors you would have heard something rattle like plates or other things. Did you know that demons are more afraid of you than you are of them? Gee maybe that's why the "room" stopped. And earth tremors would have made those figures point all kinds of ways not just one way and one figure the other especially with its nose down.

[Arkacia]

You have your opinion, and I have mine. I think its pretty clear that we're not going to agree with each other on the cause or existance of ghosts, demons or whatever :).

So lets just agree to disagee.

[the_dude3]

Why do you just give up all of the sudden? Don't you want to stand up for what you believe in? Or do you give up because you lost... Ah HA!! A surrender! No just kidding, but still, say SOMETHING instead of trying to form a truce. FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!! lol.

[Arkacia]

Why do you just give up all of the sudden? Don't you want to stand up for what you believe in? Or do you give up because you lost... Ah HA!! A surrender! No just kidding, but still, say SOMETHING instead of trying to form a truce. FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!! lol.
That sounds a bit like bullying to me, and bullying anyone on this forum is not acceptable. Doing it to a moderator could be especially dangerous ;).

I don't need to stand up for what I believe in, as I already have stated my opinions on this subject. You disagree with me, as you have every right to, and I really don't see the need for either of us to continue to bang our heads on brick walls.

I don't believe demons exist, and are not religious. You do believe demons exist and are religious. Why keep arguing about it. Neither of us will ever convince the other.

[the_dude3]

I'm not trying to bully you if I came across that way and i'm sorry if i did. Just trying to have a little fun is all. You dont know, maybe you could convince me. I'm all ears right now.

[zaqhyb]

Ghost r really i have seen them myself. People think im crazy because i talk to the ghosts when no one else can see them.

I'm just playing. But i do thik that ghosts are real cause wut else is there to believe in right. LOL. You got something to believe better then that then tell me. And don't say love cause i do believe in that one thing much more then any thing else on this earth.

[phantomullet]

I do not really believe in ghosts. I have heard many stories and some of them sound quite convincing, but I have never had anything that extraordinary happen to me where I have even thought of the possibilities of ghosts. I have found logical explanations for most things that have happened to me.

[kid]

energy never dies , whether or not it retains conciouness is a different story.

[dunkinmb310]

ghosts are real no joke i see them like all the time and no its not cuz im high

[Arkacia]

I'm feeling very generous today so won't delete the above two posts even though they go against the rule of this paticular forum that posts must have a minimum of 20 words ;).

If you have experienced something you feel falls under the catagory of a ghost, please tell us about it. Those sort of stories are what makes threads like this interesting to read :).

[Emptydeath]

i beleve that the paranormal sightings that people have are true but these things are basicly balls of energey that are extracted from life forms bodys after they die and this energy can take phisical form and usually this happens if the life form died under stress

[tonianne]

my imaginary friend was a ghost when i was 3 - he was my brother who passed away 10 years before i was born

[Emptydeath]

you know thats really cool that your imaginaty friend that was once real but also kinda creepy if i was you i would have been really sad everytime i thought of my imaginary friend because he was my brother

[JsWoman]

It is cool that your imaginary friend was the ghost of your brother.

I personally believe in ghosts, because I lived in an old farm house, when I was younger, and saw and heard them, all the time. Please don't think it was the imagination of a little kid, because my mom heard them, too.

[JsWoman]

Well, I don't think a ghost would have an easy time of being on the computer, but, if you are, welcome to RG, anyway. :D LOL

[yarnellcg17]

I know from my own experience as a boy that there are spirits..I was about 7 at the time.. I was playing in the near by creek..as I was playing I seen what I thought to be a girl about my age running slow to a tree no wider than a persons width.. she the went behind the tree..and I didn't see her move left nor right of the tree..I wanted to go up to greet her I never had my eye off the tree for any given moment as I approached it..I looked behind the tree and I did not see her..I looked around I could not see here anywhere..I found that odd but as I walked maybe 2 feet from the tree.. she suddenly put her hand on my shoulder..I looked back at her and said there you are..but where did you go..she went back behind the tree again and she was not there again as I looked when I followed her..I've never forgotten that incident..and as sure as I may get alzheimers someday..I still will not forget her..

I will always think about that little girl..and why we crossed paths that day.. :angel2:

[Mick]

Wow that would have been freaky Yarnell :eek: ...and you don't ever forget things like that....I certainly believe in ghosts and have a few experiences that I will remember for the rest of my life

[yarnellcg17]

It.. definitely makes ya wonder :D

But I welcome the fact of what happened to me as a kid

I have had some interesting encounters with things in my life time

But I'm never affraid of anything I have experienced :D

[Mick]

It.. definitely makes ya wonder :D

But I welcome the fact of what happened to me as a kid
Me too, it certainly opens the mind a lot. I am a sceintific/logical thinker, meaning of course I like to have proof of something before I believe it. If I didn't have any personal experiences I probably wouldn't believe any of it.

Now I still like my science but I have to admit there are things happening in this world that cannot be explained with science. Same with psychic abilities, I believe there are some genuine psychics out there, probably not many but there must be some. Again it has been personal experiences that have convinced me there is parts of our mind we do not understand or don't know how to use.

The area of psychic abilities is also widely scorned in society with a minority group believing and maybe understanding. That really doesn't surprise me though since I probably would not believe either if I didn't see it myself. Hmmm....i'm drifting off topic now....better shut up before someone puts me in a mental hospital :D

[yarnellcg17]

Oh I very much believe there is a supernatural world we live in..and thru out time we as humans ( some of us humans ) do not know how to unlock it..
From what's in our minds..our gut instincts that talk to us at times..
But all that is there and I do believe so are spirits..I just think that only a few of us can see em..because the way our minds maybe set up to channel em.

[Arkacia]

I'm going to copy/paste a post I put in a thread on OG about "Visions from hell". This did actually happen to me and was very scary at the time. I can't help wondering how many of what we consider supernatural experiences have a very natural cause we just haven't figured out yet. Just for the record, Prideth is the name I use on that site :).

I can sort of understand what you are talking about masterofgames, as I had something similar happen to me about 20 years ago.
I was in bed with the light out, but wide awake, when the room suddenly went very dark, pitch black in fact, and I found I could'nt move. Then there was a feeling of great pressure on my chest and I could hear a sort of high pitched squealing. This lasted for a few seconds (though it seemed like hours at the time), then the room brightened slightly (to normal nightime shadows), and the ability to move again, started returning slowly. As you can imagine, this scared the dickens out of me. It never happed again thank goodness.
At the time I naturally thought this incident had some sort of supernatural cause, but now I am older and wiser, I realise it was probably some sort of "concious seizure", a tempory short curcuit in the brain. I don't know for sure, but it seems the most logical explanation. If there is one thing we know for sure about the brain, that is that we still have a lot to learn about all the different ways it works.

[ender1626]

Well im not sure if ghosts exist or not, but i di hear an interesting explination about the spirits that people see. I heard a theory that spirits are actually the image of people walking around in the near past. As far as i can tell the "time" we currently live in is actually the near future. So the the "spirits" that people see are the people walking around in there everyday life in the past. Due to things changeing all the time the surroundings can be different so it may look like they are lying, but they are actually walking around in what would be there upstairs. Sounds like a good theory to me.

[kornrockgod]

i do cos my door shuts on its own!

[Arkacia]

A couple of spammy posts have been removed from this thread.

I've been watching a show on the Discovery channel about supposed real hauntings, and it has awakened my interest in this again.

Am afraid the stories I've seen featured have just reinforced my belief that there must be logical explainations for 'hauntings' because of how bad these ones supposedly were. If people really were being terrorised out of their houses by 'ghosts', wouldn't we hear about it on the evening news? We certainly do if they're chased out by crime, fire, or flood. Why not a ghost.

One story went really over the top. A guy supposedly played around with 'black magic' and unleashed a hoard of bad tempered ghosts onto his family. They moved house, but the ghosts followed, and became even more nasty. To add to the back story, apparently the man and somone else found an Indian grave in the basement of their house, and disturbed the bones.

He went to all the churches in his area, but they just tried to convert him (his words, not my opinion here), so finally found a Wiccan who agreed to attempt to remove these bad spirits. After the Wiccan ceremony, which didn't work, the spirits became even more nasty and aimed at his young sister.

It took a young woman who supposedly had some sort of 'touch of god' to remove a 'demon' from his body, that ended the haunting.

Watching this story, and that is all I believe it is, had me dumbfounded that it was in any way promoted as a true story. Hollywood could make a blockbuster out of this one, it had everything, innocent young man dabbles in the occult, pentagrams (real Wiccan ones, not the reversed satanic version), corpse like figures jumping up in windows, possesion, houses shaking, sudden lightning storms (as the Wiccan was trying to circle the house 3 times to put it under a protection circle or some such thing), and the final Christian deliverance. It would be like having The Exorcist, Amityville horror, and Poltergist all rolled into one.

[Pyro101291]

Ghosts are in-fact real if you ask me. But actually being visible or capable of actually moving objects is highly unlikely. Most ghost stories you hear are just exaggerations of what really happened.

[leachrode]

Ghosts are one of the many things that, I would love for them to be true but I find it very hard to accept the idea

[ryanbebo]

i personally beleve in ghosts even though i do not wat to. my thoughts are i dont believe life can just end like that, theres got to be something else to it. if i ever encountered a ghost however i would probably just freeze, i am really petrified of them...

[coogiez]

hmmmm....


well, first off, yes, i did (when i was about, what... 8 to 14-ish?)

at about 14 to 15 i realised it didn't bloody matter, even if i didn't "believe" in them, if they were real, they were real and my belief's wouldn't change the fact.

now i'm 16, i actually can control my brain itself, i can make precise movements and i have a really usefull ability, of being able to take things calmly and steadly, even if i'm under serious threat.

i went into the details about where the idea of the "ghost" came from, took a while, but i finally found out that the mind is based on the brain, the mind being our psychological being and the brain being our physical being.

which means, when the "brain" dies, the "mind" dies as well.

i have already contributed to several peoples understanding of these facts, well, theories really, but hey?

so no, heck no!

"ghosts" or not, i'm alive.


ps: even IF the general concepts of ghosts were real, there wouldn't be any direct way a ghost could do anything, being that the mind is psychological and the brain being it's base, the mind would need some other physical base to "stabalise" it (the mind), and "mist" or "air" will not surfice.

although, there are unknown elements.

but it would be highly unusualy for such an element to exist.

probably highly unstable aswell....


being all "see-through" you'd think this element would just randomly drift around, you know, like air.

[tinmanwcf]

Yes I do believe, ive lived in a house that had ghost. The house was around 80 - 90 years old at the time, Use to be a Court house in the late 1890's, & was told there were public hangings. Then it use to be a church of some sort, pleanty of wakes , or what ever u want to call them. Anyway at night you could honestly here foot steps, and some that you could here coming up there stairs,Old creeky stairs, After awhile of this,, things like lights would get turned off, ash trays moved, even kitchen stove was on 1 morning. Clocks would have the timed changed,, Was very weird , So yes i do believe.

[sophiyabush]

I know you probably think that I am crazy or something but I didn't really believe it at first until I really looked into the subject. Then all the sudden it came to me and I was just like whoa what's going on, no way this can't be real...it is though which is scary sort of at first but then you come to realize that it isn't so bad once you see that there is more to life than just living.

[alexrock23]

Ghosts are just former humans who have something to do here so that they can let go of the material. If you are a spiritualist, then you will understand that you need to help them move on instead of playing games with them. Think about yourself in that same position. Would you want help moving on so that you can progress or do you want material beings messing with you? They are souls just as you are. They aren't demons. They are human beings living in the spirit world who are lost.

[mike_watling]

yea i beleive thiers a few places around where i live where their are beleive to be alot about

[bloop16]

ghosts exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gretunia21]

I dont disbelieve in them. Ive never had any encounters with them, but the idea of them may not be so far-fetched. I think for the most part, ghost sightings have a logical explanation. But the idea of a lingering energy after someones body is gone makes sense to me. I mean, each one of us is his/her own galaxy. And each galaxy is a mass of whirling electrons etc...so that energy must go someplace...right?